Primaat 24 conversion

  • 08 Apr 2022 07:21
    Reply # 12699566 on 7891576

    Hello, I've just published a new (quite long) video of my last sail, with more wind.

    Please comment the rigging, you have lot more experience than I. I found that going to weather I lost lot of speed and made too much leeway. Perhaps I was too sheeted in ?

    https://youtu.be/-teii0jyJHI


  • 26 Jan 2022 09:27
    Reply # 12317070 on 7891576
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Thomas,

    A little more about the rig, which I like a lot.

    • ·         Your dividing of the sail into seven panels (unlike Jester’s sail with six panels), is in my view an improvement. The load on the cloth and battens will be lower, and the luff(s) will stand straighter. In addition, the reef steps will be smaller, but still big enough.
    • ·         The Pilmer-type 3-part sheet appears to suit the planform perfectly, giving some anti-twist.  Way too often I see junks, even small ones, with 5- or even 6-part sheets. The added friction both makes hoisting sail harder, and in light winds the sail will be less willing to swing out.
    • ·         I applaud (of course) the use of telltales  -  something that I constantly nag about.

    I wonder if you could tell a bit more about how you did to create the camber. In addition, I suggest you check the actual amount of camber, as shown on the photo below.

    Anyway, I congratulate you with a successful conversion and wish you lots of happy sailing.

    Arne



    PS: Now I read through the whole thread, and got a better idea of how you did it. The planform of the sail looks more like the original Jester sailplan than Weaverbird's. That calls for more work when sewing, but the end result surely looks good.

    I would still like to see the resulting camber.

    Last modified: 26 Jan 2022 09:56 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 26 Jan 2022 00:26
    Reply # 12315079 on 7891576
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    The Weaverbird sail looks beautiful, and the restoration job is lovely. I enjoyed the video and the blog (at least the pictures). The only thing which concerns me a little is the gas bottle located in the galley.

    If it were my boat I would put the gas bottle outside, maybe in the self-draining cockpit, and have a shut-off valve mounted on the outside bulkhead, but with an extended shaft so the handle is on the inside and can be reached without having to go on deck. Alternatively, there are 12v solenoid-actuated shut-of valves available, so you can turn the gas on and off from the galley by an electrical switch - that's an easier option to install and the option I have always used, but they are a bit expensive, don't last forever - and that way you are unable to use the stove if you have a flat battery or an electrical fault.

    When Marcus took over Havoc, he didn't want a solenoid valve so we modified an ordinary shut-off valve, so the shut-off valve is on the outside, with the bottle, but the handle is on the inside, next to the galley, and as far as I know that is working satisfactorily for Marcus.

    Its good that you don't need gas pipe on your installation (though the flexible rubber gas line available these days is easy to install and make gas-tight) but regulators have been known to leak and you don't want that anywhere near a flame.

    If you are using gas, you do want to be able to close off the gas without having to go outside. But I think it is worth going to that little bit of trouble to put the bottle, regulator and the body of the shut-off valve outside the closed cabin.

    Last modified: 26 Jan 2022 01:04 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 25 Jan 2022 22:24
    Reply # 12314819 on 7891576
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Bonsoir

    Nice sailing in the "Golfe du Morbihan" on a nice boat and fear weather !

    merci

    Eric

  • 25 Jan 2022 11:50
    Reply # 12312897 on 7891576

    What a pleasing outcome! Congratulations! Thanks for sharing, including your effort in making the video. 
    Inspiring!

    Last modified: 25 Jan 2022 11:51 | Anonymous member
  • 25 Jan 2022 10:04
    Reply # 12312756 on 11408869
    Thomas wrote:

    At least first outing under sail with my Primaat Circé !

    All I was expecting from the junk rig was here : ease of hoisting, ease of reefing, ease of tacking, excellent view ahead, rig very silent. Perfect !

    And I was very lucky that my sail set up very well with few wrinkles, with minimal tweaking of the luff hauling parrel and the yard hauling parrel. The performance was excellent, hull speed with 10-15 knots of wind from astern, and tacking throught 90° upwind.

    I'm a very happy sailor !

    Thanks for the video, Thomas. It's good to see your Weaverbird-pattern sail working well.
  • 25 Jan 2022 09:25
    Reply # 12312688 on 7891576
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Nice!

  • 25 Jan 2022 07:01
    Reply # 12312335 on 7891576

    Hello, a short video of my last winter navigation, with light wind. Always very pleased with my rig


    https://youtu.be/mg9d0oY5Djs

  • 12 Oct 2021 22:38
    Reply # 11412037 on 7891576
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Congratulations, looks excellent!!!

    Arne

  • 12 Oct 2021 21:13
    Reply # 11408869 on 7891576

    At least first outing under sail with my Primaat Circé !

    All I was expecting from the junk rig was here : ease of hoisting, ease of reefing, ease of tacking, excellent view ahead, rig very silent. Perfect !

    And I was very lucky that my sail set up very well with few wrinkles, with minimal tweaking of the luff hauling parrel and the yard hauling parrel. The performance was excellent, hull speed with 10-15 knots of wind from astern, and tacking throught 90° upwind.

    I'm a very happy sailor !

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