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  • 15 Nov 2014 16:06
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    I don't think anyone's trying to dissuade you, Robert, just advising caution.

    I think this boat is well worth having a look at, and perhaps making a suitable offer subject to survey. Shame it's a little inaccessible.
  • 15 Nov 2014 15:41
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    Many thanks for your comments Chris, Asmat and Annie.

    It sounds as though Chineel could be approaching 50 years old but having been involved in building a small steel trawler and cutting up my last one when she was decommissioned, I do appreciate that  steel is easily repaired and it's surprising how strong even a badly pitted skin can be with the right support.

     Although I've worked at the fishing and as a marine/hydraulic engineer I am now looking for an introduction to Junk rig and sailing that doesn't cost the earth with a view to spending time on the water in retirement.

    Just a thought that something like Chineel might provide the opportunity for a group of interested folk to experience Junk rig sailing at a reasonable cost.
  • 13 Nov 2014 21:22
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    I'd want a few more photos and a lot more information before I invested in a plane fare.  I would tend to agree with Chris about a surveyor - and actually know a completely reliable one - but you'd have to pay for him, too.  As Chris says, not a Spray.

    You have a steel boat, so obviously like the material, but I suspect that the welded up pits - assuming that they were all discovered - could come home to haunt you with peeling paint, etc.

    One thing about Fuerteventura - you would go a long way to find a more dry climate: ideal for painting steel!

    Last modified: 13 Nov 2014 21:23 | Anonymous member
  • 13 Nov 2014 18:06
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    I've talked to Robin of Sunbird about Chineel. He says she suffered heavy pitting as a result of being kept in a mud berth for some time;  the pits have been welded up before the hull was epoxied and painted recently.

    I'm tempted to fly out for a look, although I suspect a fair bit of work would be needed to fit out and equip her for serious cruising and a survey would be essential. Then again, a break in the Canaries would be nice.
  • 13 Nov 2014 17:14
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    I've seen this boat on ebay several times - the first time over a year ago - see my post on this thread, the original ad is still viewable - and then again in January this year, and again in March and again in May.

    They are quite a good design if built properly - trouble is, most Roberts steel designs are home built, and quality is highly variable. Doesn't say who built this so almost certainly home built. Usually I don't bother with surveys, but I would with this one.

    Given how long it's been on the market, and if you're interested, I'd try a substantially lower offer.


    Edit: I note the guy is still insisting it's a Roberts Spray - having always been interested, and having built a steel Roberts Spray 33, I can assure you, as I did him, it's not.

    Last modified: 13 Nov 2014 17:18 | Deleted user
  • 13 Nov 2014 12:52
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    Does anyone know anything about the history of the Bruce Roberts steel Junk rig "Chineel" that is currently for sale?
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